I am sick of hearing how new and young the software is and how they will figure it out. However the lack of consistency on ADSK part is what I think many are tried of. So while one can argue whether they price is a good value or not it really depends on their business, their needs and their personal preference. If I have a 3 axis mill and want hole recognition I need to pay for full 5 axis and additive manufacturing? Secondly the packaging could be a bit better. Things that are used rarely or benefit for high horsepower cloud computing. I can completely see rendering, generative design and FEA being a SaaS product. Now the want to sell it yearly and charge a 60% premium for monthly. So at one point they don't want to sell it to you yearly. The monthy price now went up to $200 per month which work out to $2400. You can't use cloud credits for that option so the 1000 a year some get can't be used towards purchasing a year. Now they offer a yearly option that is $1500, no discount from the monthly $125 I think many were expecting. Also any remainder credits expire each year. At that time the only option was to purchase cloud credits in $100 blocks so you ended having to buy 2 blocks of cloud credits so you could spend 125 on software for the month and have 75 extra. If you need 5axis tool paths then you need them and having to pay monthly was ridiculous. In the beginning the extension was $125 per month with no yearly option. But the price and packaging of Fusion has changed many time, they had multiple tiers they combined them all. It is their software and they can price according to their desire. I am not sure the price is out of line, however pick a price and business model and be upfront about it. Not a big difference but it is $500 + $1500 = $2000 I get if you have a Mill-Turn or some 9 axis machine you might want more but most everyone has a 4 axis machine VMC/4th or live tool Y lathe.Īctually it would be $2000 per year. A well rounded modest product that had all the basics, and today that means adaptive tool paths and 4/5th axis. It's like the products are for big companies at $25K+ or Makers for free. It's amazing with how important CAD/CAM is today that the market appears to have giant holes in as far as addressing customers. Then I have to worry about getting screwed over by two companies. I heard Stefan Gotteswinter on YouTube mention some package he was using that was a one time pay thing and good but usually when I look that stuff up it doesn't have CAD and CAM and they don't work together and the workflow is across multiple programs is bad and becomes a PITA. I really hate the way Autodesk does business but I can't afford to be proud right now, I just don't have the money. Every time people bitch about Fusion I get it but there doesn't seem to be any alternatives that aren't vastly more expensive, or so rare you will never get help using them or by the time you buy all the stuff that comes bundled with basic Fusion are way more expensive. Those prices would put me out of business trying to build my clients and products right now. Also I would still need to buy SolidWorks which was about $5k then. I called Selway which is the local MasterCam vendor and the guy said all in I was looking at about $17k and I should just use Fusion for right now. I ended up using the Inverse Time one they have and it has worked so far. They also have 3/5 Doosan post but it didn't work at all. There is dedicated Doosan post and it works great for 3 axis. Small things need to be fixed to work machine specific. My Doosan and Hyundai/Kia are both Fanuc so while Fusion will not help me with a Post they have a library and there are some generics in there. Fusion does not have a workable post for this and will not modify one to help me out either. I have run my haas on both fusion and sprutcam. Fusoon absolutely will not modify your post if it has bugs, I found that out the hard way. Probably $2500 each because I upgraded to have adaptive profiling but it is a one time charge and never expires. They have a 30 day trial, i have 3 seats of it. Not very satisfied overall, wish they would work with a cnc programmer to tell them what is wrong with the software. I have told them they need to fix this but they seem to be more worried about aesthetics of the software. What I have found with fusion is that it is very dumb in the respect you can create a toolpath that will cut straight thru your part without any errors. For 3 and 4 axis work I would choose sprutcam any day of the week. Before using fusion I ran sprutcam for years. I bought it becuase it is compatable with camplete for 5 axis verification.
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